Medical Doctors and Authors- Dr. Pierre Johnson, Dr. Maxime Madhere, and Dr. Joseph Semien. Pierre, Max and Joe shared sound information on Covid-19, mental health, and their story of friendship and perseverance to reach achievement and success.
Through their book "Pulse of Perseverance," the doctors reveal how they overcame poverty, dysfunction and failing schools to accomplish their dreams of becoming doctors.
The Born 2 Win podcast highlights individuals excelling at high levels in their purpose and calling. This podcast is for anyone looking to get ahead in life and willing to take ACTION and reach their full potential. Using our C.H.A.M.P.S. Mentoring Model of the 3E's Education, Empowerment, and Exposure.
Medical Doctors and Authors- Dr. Pierre Johnson, Dr. Maxime Madhere, and Dr. Joseph Semien. Pierre, Max and Joe shared sound information on Covid-19, mental health, and their story of friendship and perseverance to reach achievement and success.
Through their book "Pulse of Perseverance," the doctors reveal how they overcame poverty, dysfunction and failing schools to accomplish their dreams of becoming doctors.
The Born 2 Win podcast highlights individuals excelling at high levels in their purpose and calling. This podcast is for anyone looking to get ahead in life and willing to take ACTION and reach their full potential. Using our C.H.A.M.P.S. Mentoring Model of the 3E's Education, Empowerment, and Exposure.
spk_1: 0:03
What's up, everybody? We are here at the born toe win Pike as we are live. Thank you all so much for tuning in. I'm super excited toe have the post of perseverance doctors on this life. Podcast. And look, it's super important that you share this link right now is very important that you hear this information is going to be coming up. I have the post of perseverance doctors. Ah, here with us. Um, I got Dr Max right here. What's up, Dr Max?
spk_2: 0:38
Brother Vonda. How are you received,
spk_1: 0:40
man? Thank you. Thank you so much for joining. Joining them? And why don't you quickly tell the story of who you are?
spk_3: 0:49
Well, you know, when I was Dr Maximum Day, I'm just the the East Coast kid born in Brooklyn, New York, raised in Washington, D. C. You know, I had a dream to become a position, um, all of my dream and chase that dream. And along the way, there were a lot of bumps, hurdles and bruises along the road. Got scraped up a couple of times, but, you know, found find a strong team and pick myself up, and, you know, before you know that I am a board certified a cardiac anesthesiologist, man. Just they're just doing my part to try to change his narrative for young black men out here in America.
spk_1: 1:25
No, man. You all doing more than just doing your part. We do have Dr Joe and Dr Pierre on the call, so we definitely gonna be pulling them in here shortly. But, man, you grew up born and raised in Brooklyn, New York?
spk_3: 1:39
Yeah,
spk_1: 1:40
in transition to D. C. So tell us a little bit about that.
spk_3: 1:44
Well, you know that the background mind, that was because my parents they divorced pretty early on my child and during that divorced my dad. He moved to Washington, D. C. And, of course, there When he moved to D. C. My older brother and I went with them, and it really wasn't that much different from what we had in New York during that time. You know, during that time, there were a lot of things going on in our in our communities and our environment, some sort. Some of the same things that happened today, um, constant, you know, violence and and all of the neck of things that I don't like to touch too much upon, but it's a similar narrative that them a lot of black men have. And, uh, being in D c, you know, just raised my strong blackmail. You kind of, you know, you showed me things as a strong black male should do, which is, you know, show a better way for Children, you know? So, you know, under his guidance and under the guidance and tutelage of some positive, productive people around me, I was able to catapult myself to another love. And so, you know, here I am.
spk_1: 2:51
Boom. You heard it. There, baby. Doctor Max. Ah, you know, we got Dr Pierre here. Ah, from the south side of Chicago. Tell us your story dot
spk_2: 3:03
uh, you know, wanna raise outside Chicago? And, you know, my parents were addicted to drugs as a kid. Um, you know, have problems early on, you know, ended up spending a couple of years out in the suburbs and Glenwood with my, um, for grammar school, which really kind of helped me build a foundation. Um, and then I moved back to Chicago my freshman year High school, once the same mind the pores which is now going to the Brooks and Roseman. Um, you know, it was tough, man. I always knew I had a dream to become a physician. Uh, I knew that from a very early age, but, you know, as we all know, coming from, you know, CPS or which my school turn into a CPS graduated. You know, education is just, you know, substandard. Um, you know. So by the time I graduated, um, you got toe Xavier University on. This problem was it was a huge struggle, and I So I met these brothers, Lou, all three of us, you're struggling. Just what dreams? Todo bigot and pills. Uh, but, you know, way, way behind a Sfar is getting there, so we just ah, we grab it other than just pushed each other toe higher levels, man. And we just grind it out and, you know, ended up. Um, you know, just going through the faces and grinding out a recent days like it was handed to us. Nothing was easy. Uh, at, you know, we just had said back up to set back.
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But we just knew that we was going to persevere and get to
spk_2: 4:43
our goals and our higher levels of excellence. Man, we just saw ways. Knew that way. Just kept pushing each other story.
spk_1: 4:53
A man Cool where we got Dr Joe. Let me first of all, say this man. Thank you so much. You are demonstrating a post of perseverance right now, brother. I want to tell you that right now. Publicly. Ah, man, you're going through a storm right now. But look you here, man. So introduce yourself, man, and tell us your story, Dr Joe,
spk_3: 5:14
that the jewels semi on first I pass
spk_0: 5:17
it. Thank you is definitely tough time. But you know, when you're doing something positive, kind of lift your spirits. So that's always a good thing. I'm Dr Joanne from Wallace, Louisiana born and raised, And I My story is just like in it in any inner centre sin a city person. It is just I have been in obstacles in my life, but I refused to let him be my shortcomings, and I used them as stepping stones further myself feel myself up and just like Dr P. Said, um, as the time went, I met them and they just basically pushed me to higher levels. and and And the store was just written from now, you know, we all became both certified. We all work in the community helping people helping others. That's according our family. And it's just been a great thing there,
spk_1: 6:14
man. That's what's up. Ah, you know, I met these brothers man a few years ago, and I'm gonna tell everybody a quick story. Ah, they were getting ready. Toe release the post of perseverance book. By the way, if you don't have that book, you need to get the book. Ah, Dr Pierre, he hit me up. Was like, Hey, I want you to check out this book. Ah, there. We about to come out with its called the Post of Perseverance. Me and my brothers and I was like, Bet it was a Microsoft Word document. The book wasn't even out officially. And, man, when I tell you, you all look up. I started reading through the document. I couldn't stop. I hit Dr Pierre up. I was like up. This is a game changer right here. Man is gonna change the world. Your stories were phenomenal. So get this. I'm like, man, you'll have to come and share the book at the Champs Saturday. So Dr Sierra was like, That's done. So, man, let me tell you, let me tell you that these guys are who they say they are. Let me tell you why. So it was a Saturday. It was a Saturday morning. They suppose that the calm come to find out? I don't know. It was snowing or something. Louisiana, they flights got canceled. These guys jumped in the car and drove all the way to Chicago. How many hours? A job, Dr.
spk_3: 7:37
Or TV?
spk_1: 7:38
14 hours. Come on, y'all 14 straight hours and walked through the door on time. Come on, man. And so when they showed up, they showed out y'all and I was like, the first I think that was, like, maybe the first gathering at the Champs Session of the Post of Perseverance. So, man, you know that that right there I was just like the respect level went to a whole nother level. Already respected yard A high level. But man, when I heard that in your came in and I had to let everybody know like a look, these are not just average everyday doctors. Here's the thing about your brothers. You all been through the struggle, right? Your persevere, you all made it out. And now you all given back at a very, very, very, very, very high level. And so, Manto, all the health workers out there, the first responders on the front lines of this pandemic man shot out toe everybody out there. But you all three specifically, man. So anything that you want people to know, just kind of about y'all. Bond, how did y'all talk a little bit about that?
spk_2: 8:54
We, uh, you know, is is ironic. Uh, so me is Joe from Joe from the Wharton. So kind of at our school. Typically, people from, uh, you know, the city, just like most other school was like they don't typically stay on campus. Uh, me and Max would be transplants. So, like, I'm from Chicago from D. C of our way of New Yorker. Uh, so we stayed in a freshman dorms, so way met. We gravitate here early, like you know who you are. Chicago rival result like we just happen. Just arguments, conversations about, You know, New Yorkers are pro sports all day long, like from sports hip hop united. We just met. We just kind of gravitate each other. It's all about that. And, uh, one today and we will see the shop in the class like we can't be like that. We each class and, uh, we don't say really, really talk about school too much. You know, uh, we just kept it, you know, friendly about, like, our cities. And And we came out. I think it might have been like a drill or something that we had. And, uh, you know what, man? We just got to talking. And just like we both got crushed. It is just like, yo, like we both for, like, you know, we looked at each other like we doing bad. But man, this is This is new for us. What? What? What? What the hell is going on that we need? So we need to link up on buying chancel. The next thing we were in the library way above me. It's up to each other. The library. We just like, man. What? You're doing what you're doing? Whatever. We just got the conversation. And then that's how everything opened up with our dreams, our aspirations and I go this far as I know what wanted to do and man for man, we just We just hit it off. It was just, like, just instantaneous as far as like, what we needed to do to push each other to drive. I have to really and at the library. And then from from there, like within, like a week or two. We just saw a joke at about two tables down library. Once me and Max figured out what we want to do it just like that every day. It was like, you know, Clapper at the classroom there were pushing each other. We saw Joe. We could, too late that he was destined by. So for this book, sauce brought out about one of two tables from us. We just sparked. A conversation was like, Man, this do. It's pretty much just us. I mean, once we start talking, it's time. Our two hours, we use this man just feeling each other out. Then that was it. It was just like Man Way just formed that bond literally right there. The library on the second floor, Xavier University. And from then on, man, we've been pushing each other every sense and I was I was 98 you know. Way still in it, man.
spk_1: 11:43
Any brothers want to add to that? Anything you remember about your brothers? How old were you guys?
spk_3: 11:48
I just want to jump in on that
spk_2: 11:49
18. Welcoming me and Max with 18
spk_3: 11:55
it has been now has been almost 20 years, you know, and it's just kind of like it is true. You know, I'm sitting here and I'm getting goose bumps because I, you know, I don't know, this wasn't even done on purpose, But I'm looking on Joe's on Joe's live and he has, you know, those plaques in his wallet. You know, you could see my my long, you know, diesel, this is like a representation of this. Like, you know, you form the proper teen. You know, you don't get the whole championships, you know, and it just shows you how like, But you have the right people around you. Just anything is possible, man, and it's just it's just amazing out. You know, every time he talks about that story is true. You know, you never know who's gonna be putting your life and for what reasons. And I think the thing that bonded us the most is not just about like the city's rubble from its It's a bond. That bomb was built to, ah, struggle that we at all endured pride, even just getting to that point. And I think that's why Laban was so special. You could be you could be in three different cities and you can have different backgrounds, different parents, different situations. But there's a similarity in those in those upbringings, and we found those similarities in our brains, and we just knew just looking in each other's eyes. That something, you know, we never knew that how far will take us. Now we're sitting here with basically plaques and trophies on our ball, unable to take care of our families and help kids that have never met us today in our lives like, you know, just powerful powerful stuff, man, when you really think about it. And even though we wrote that book, it's just like the stories in our lives. It's like every day you live your life, and it's just like a different page in your journey and and our chapters aren't even done yet. We're still making, you know, trying to make history. We are making this too, you know,
spk_2: 13:44
man. And we had Yeah, bag's real quick. We had a boy like we didn't know it at the time, but there was something significant missing in our lives. Um, and then we kind of like when we link. It was like looking in the mirror almost. And it was just like, man, it was like, There it is like that. That's what I need right there. But a lot of the things that we see, what kids a lot. And we see what adults, man, It's like people aren't really honest about that boy and, you know, when they see the blessing it front, open more When they see like, God puts what you need in front of you. You know, you don't pay attention to it or you're not, you know, humble or honest enough to say, Man, that's exactly what I needed. Let me grab potato. That's what I want to say that I'll let George is trying
spk_0: 14:33
the only thing I'll pick it back off of that and that's that's going off a little bit of what all P said, and definitely with Mex it and some things are just destined to happen. And it comes with a purpose and a reason. And I take my situation in general just like Pierce dead. I was from New Orleans. I had already been through my struggles and trust was always an issue for me. So when I was sitting in that library, I was thinking about Okay, I'm gonna have the brightness by myself. I have to figure this out. But it's amazing how you know God and general pushed stands in front of you. Put people in front of you that you can relate to. You combine to anything bringing toe higher heights. No. Is this is this amazing? How does connections actually And it goes and, you know, talked kids were always stressed. The number one is Put yourself around like minded people. And when you do that and it's put yourself in that surroundings where they've gone, the church where they be doing whatever you do in a positive room, um, things are going to come in front. You those those positive people go come in front. You and you just got to be open minded and willing to They have that connection.
spk_1: 15:44
Yeah, and And that's the thing, man. Yeah, real quick. You know, that's the thing that I love about you brothers is that you guys had a plan to move forward. Like we know the history. You talked about the history that things that you had to overcome. But the powerful thing that you showing the world is that brothers can come together so much fighting and so much bigger in and so much jealousy. We already losing on so many different fields. We need more brothers coming together. And your brother decided to come together the early age and say, You know what, man? Let me go ahead and thing that I love hearing you all say all the time there's man, we going, we're gonna change the coat. We gonna shift the narrative, right? And so that's exactly like when I hear you all talk, you guys are actually implementing you ain't just talking about y'all. Y'all did it and you're doing it. What were you going to say, Dr. P
spk_2: 16:34
Man, I was just gonna say like mad because because kids get kind of confused. And there they will say like, man, you are. You are what one is bad issue. As you say, You work like you weren't. You weren't at a at a at a level where you felt down and out. Like when I speak for all three of us. Man, we was toast, you know, the same. But it had a lack of a better start. Like literally like man, we would like, you know, these f's like pulling out ahead, trying to figure it out, man, just like clinical depression. Real talk. We, like, depressed all of us because we didn't know. We just know, like, man, we not going home. That failure is not an option like I got to keep doing, But I don't know how to make it. So we met. It was just like, man, Seriously, It was like clinical depression that we already had to pull each other out of NASA. When people think like now we had it better than that man, literally, You read the book is trying truly was done toast at one point in time.
spk_3: 17:34
And that's just another thing in touch about what she said was true. Man, it's like and I don't care who you are as a person and because there's a false narrative out there. Uh, it is almost like false team out there, you know, you hear all the time, particularly in our community. People say, Oh, self made, you know I did this. I write, and I don't care how successful the person is. It's like nobody becomes successful on their own. And you have tohave, you know, different people and different steps in your journey were vested in making sure you catapult yourself to a whole new level of and the quicker you realize that classically, with youth and the young broke and the young grows out there, man, protect the more quickly you understand that and equipped you learn that and the quicker you put your ego to the side, especially in a time like this, where the information comes quick. You know, I don't care what your career path is, what your passion is. The times we're living in the information comes quick man and quicker. You can put your ego your pride to the style and really just chop it up and get the information that you need by whether it's, you know, humbling yourself. Whether it's, you know, helping the next brother out the quicker, you will become more successful in whatever it is that.
spk_1: 18:56
Amen. I am so real quick. Like you just brought up something. I mean, we all going through this pandemic I was sharing the other day on my good friend Kelly right show. Ah, he was asking me about, like, Chicago in particular, and I was saying like, Yes, we're in the pandemic but we're also and we have been in the epidemic, right? High gun violence hasn't got is much pub, but it's still happening. So, like man as dot as professional medical professionals. What What kind? What kind of information can you provide for us and the listener on, like, what's going on? What is covert? 19. How do we get the proper information and apply the information for ourselves and our families
spk_3: 19:39
to, uh, I guess I could stop course, because that's a you know, it's a heavy question, but of course, Cove in 19. It's basically a subset of a virus called the Corona virus, right? And what people have to realize that the Corona virus is a is a very gentle generic turn or the calm coat. But the difference with Cove in 19 is it's basically a subset or strand of that that the world has never seen before, right? And there's of course there is. Ah, I don't know, for lack of a better term, you know, it's a speculation about the source of where it came from. But none of that even matters now, right, because it's a worldwide issue. And of course, you know, in the beginning, when it was in different parts of the world, a lot of people weren't taking it seriously. Particularly people in you know, our community or wept different parts of America, depending on you know what you were. But now, as we've seen us as they've basically broken down, that's the statistics in the data. Um, it's affecting our community at, you know, a disproportionate measure, right? So here we are now and the question becomes, it's like, What has it done? Well, what it's done is it's basically shined a light on the issues that are going on that that had been going on in America for centuries. Right? When it comes to um care oh, access to care. Um, how it spread, whose lives actually matters in turn in regards to who was going to be able to survive. Um, and this is the state that we're dealing with now, Gold in Chicago. I know. For fact, uh, 70% of the death are African American. The sand can be said for Louisiana, right? If it fluctuates by the day. But at one point, over 70% of the covert deaths were people of African descent and African Americans. So we definitely have an issue on our hands. And I just want, you know, anybody was listening. Why does it affect all of us? Even if you're somebody A couple of things that I want that I want to touch upon in regards to this. And please interrupt me photos if you know if I'm talking too much. But one thing is that, um, with the virus. Why is it so important that we try to do our belt? Our very best suit, uh, self quarantine as much as possible is because that we have a very vulnerable population out there. Um, who we treat every day. And in our communities that population includes those who are diabetic. Those we have other medical co morbidity is like hypertension, high blood pressure and another co morbidity in our community affects it's tremendously, is obesity. So these are all things that when you take those cold mobility's in the plate and then you take also the community, which can which, which the community within our community who was suffering the most are the elderly? Um, it's not just about you yourself, you know you could be young and you can think that you know I'll be fine because that's what that's what the data saying. However, the problem is in our community, you know, we're sharing households with our past and our grandparents, and those are truly the most vulnerable people. So if we take selfish measures and we don't think about our grandmothers and grandfathers and uncles and our aunts, oh, that's how this disease will continue to spread. So I love my brother's jumping nothing.
spk_0: 23:39
That's one thing. That's one thing I will say in reference to that, also, just to piggyback on it a little bit, how does that come and involved in the African American community? I think it's that has become my weekend, and the reason why is because now we see it's right in center that there have they have the diseases and viruses out there that get insects and the whole community as a whole. And then when that happens, you know, if we don't pay attention to it and understand that controlling our hypertension ah, high blood pressure, well taken, diabetes serious and obesity serious that we don't commit to that now then the next virus may come in just white white bus out even more. Eso is something that we've got to be aware of and it also brings back. We we get also person fairness, really focus on is that how can we get People are people that look like us the tune in and want to care about They help and a positive wait, and that's focused on getting people that look like them in those fields. So that's why becomes important that we continue to strive to bring out, bring forward those those great doctors and at minimal African American community, those lawyers in the African American community. We need to bring forth that so education is gonna be a big factor. Do all of this? What
spk_2: 25:17
covert has done is it is exposed. The biggest lie that our country tries to tell And that lie is that that because you have a particular race, you're genetically predisposed to certain bad things that because you're black, you predisposed the hybrid attention because you're black. You predisposed to diabetes because you're black, you may have. You're gonna have a lower life expectancy when the when the truth of the matter is work over has shown this is that that's not true. What is true is that we all are just seeing his virus for the first time. We're just seeing it like some weak nobody's been exposed. Why Asians, Hispanics. We are basically on it on the same playing field where we're just seeing this for the first time. So there's no way on God's green earth that it just single is just singling us out as black people more than is singling everybody out else else out. And so what that saying is, is just saying that there is a true divide and not only resource is but in attention and care and actual, uh, you know, I mean, I can you think of a better word than caring, but they just don't care about what's happening to us as a community and for for everybody else's is a pandemic. You know, it's heightened for us this epidemic, you know, it was like the waiting Is that impacting us as black people and hitting us at such an alarming rate? There should be, You know, a multitude of resource is there's no different from this for black people, the 9 11 or, you know, a bombing or a mass shootings like NOAA hurricane or, you know, or levees breaking in Louisiana like there's no difference and what's happening the by people in each communities Now, then what a natural disaster should be. So with that being said, why are we not having Ah, Flood or a ton of resource is and said these lower income communities so that we can, you know, stop these numbers like I'm at the hospital now, you know, in Chicago, I'm in two hospitals now and literally, literally. This past week was the first time that they start giving us, like, as providers, mass as a provide. I'm a doctor and they're they're just now a month plus incidents thing given us in 95 massive take care of these patients. That hasn't happened up north. That is a happy where the population doesn't look like us. So what it's telling us is that this is a line drawn in the sand, that the world, that America is basically saying You're not truly that important and changing your circumstance. It's not a priority of America and nothing else that we learn as a people because this too shall pass. I keep saying that this is going to pass whether it be a month where they be two months, whether be dreaming. I don't know how long it is. None of us know and I don't know, medical professional actually knows. We could speculate, but it's going to pass. And when that time passes, what are we going to do at people like we? We continue to go through the status quo as a people. After all it is, and we're fools because what we're shown, they're not going to change it. We have to change this from with thing we have to the how how our parents and our grandparents made changes like they made America make changes for us, right? How did they do that? They unify. They said, All right, we'll find you're not going to give us our money in our schools. You're not going to give us money to duties in our community to take in taxes, right? Every time I go that, you know, in my community, I wake up, my mom got tickets on the car. You go through a red light, they give you tickets. You got all type of stuff going on in this city. But not the resource is all right. So we don't demand those. Resource is when this is all over with fools. And we have to do that. And we do that by survive of impact in the dollar, we say, Listen. All right, well, we're not gonna get no money or we're not going to get the resource or whatever. How about we just don't buy this four day? How about we start blinked on? How about we start, You know, not just protesting, but actually impacting the dollar of the masses and make them change, right? They gotta just once we make the move, we just can't continue to do what we're doing That happened before this. This has to wake us up. This has to be a shake. Wake up call for us to get together and actually start moving as a cohesive unit. A community of people like we did 50 years ago to make significant changes. We got complacent. We're comfortable. We we we you know, everything that our that our parents and our grandpa your sacrifice for to get us here. We cool now, Now, relax. Now it's all about. So we gotta have the same mentality that they had in the sixties, right here in 2020.
spk_1: 30:32
Wow. Anything you want to
spk_0: 30:33
add? I think that then stood is that we need to be proactive. We're getting resource is and we need to be proactive on taking care of ourselves and our families and our our village. And that means people for myself at society eating properly. Um, um, taking your medications accordingly. Addressing milk, mental help. All those things need to be on the forefront.
spk_2: 31:03
Like like argued example. Deal like at mercy Hospital. I just I was just don't call last night. Yesterday they had a mini protest about, you know, basically doing just that about resource is and I commend those people that was out there yesterday about resource is giving, making, making mercy a actual promise center toe wear, like, you know, the folks in the community, like by folks, and actually go and actually get treated appropriately and playing the resource is in there. And they were also complaining about, you know, the lack of, you know, food and produce in our communities, which is a whole. Another reason why we have in these issues and that those efforts were completely value the problem. It was all it was. Less than 100 people work, right? That's the problem. That's the problem way. We need to wake up and be like, Yo, this this is the move. We all need to be out there, and it's. And if they don't hear us, we need to start an impact on the dollar to make them hear us.
spk_1: 32:02
Wow. You know what? Ah, listen, if you out here, you watching his life, please share. Right now, Somebody need to hear this information because it's one thing to say. You know what? I don't want to change, but it's another thing not to have the information to change. They giving you information that we can do something about And listen, this is about empowerment. We're not asking for a handout. We asking for hand up and its a difference, right? And so we have to get the information. We have to apply the information, and then we have to spread that information. So is Dr Joe talked about? Let's help ourselves put your mask on first, right? And then you can go ahead and put the mass on everybody else. So, like, we've never seen this before. As you as you guys alluded to. Ah, we are in this. But what what's your take on just this mental health component? Right now, there are a lot of people who are really wrestling with their identity right now. Some people, a lot of people, have been laid off their jobs. Right now they're trying to provide and navigate that situation. But what are some some things that we can do to take care of our mental health right now that you would encourage us to do
spk_3: 33:20
well, one thing you know that I think and I definitely I definitely want to be sensitive to this because, you know, I know now some of us live. We look at things from we look at things from a different lens because of our privilege, Right? And, uh, one thing if you have the opportunity, if you live in a neighborhood that you indeed in this safe like you comfortable going outside, uh, just taking walks, man, you know, taking walks with, you know, if you got kids, you know, spend the style with your kids, you know, just with proper social distancing. Of course, we just didn't get a breath of fresh air. It's amazing what you know, just a breath of fresh air and some something I can do for just your mental health and just in general, in the way you feel about your day. Uh, the other thing is that 11 thing that the technology dust bosses it does allow us to stay in contact with people that we might have lost touch with, you know, over, you know, through life's trials, right. But just something like this is a problem, you know, when your not have on Ellen and me and the fellas can, you know, get together even though we're not physically together. But when our kids can see each other in their eyes, just light up because they see, you know, they could sit each other cousins. Uh, just keeping that close contact with the people that you deem is important in your life. That's those are just They're very simple things. But the things that we take for granted now, I definitely don't want toe miss the aspect of what human touch could do. But, um, we used let's use the social media to our bench and whether that's in regards to keeping in touch, whether that's in regards to sharing the proper information with the John in our communities and make sure you know, we can dispel misinformation because we have a lot of that going on, too. Uh, but those those are just three things that just come immediately to mind about things that we can do right now because, like the Bro said like, this too shall pass. But at the same time, I also want this everybody to be aware of this. This is this is a VIPs, okay. It is not, is not a bacteria just like any other virus. It's not going anywhere right? We can weaken, try to flatten the curve and temper expectations, and a lot of the people in there are people in the scientific community out there, and everybody's at work trying to find the proper combination of medications for people who are acutely ill. But there's some segment of this, and this too shall pass. But we have to get used to the potential that cove in 19 isn't It won't be eradicated off the face of the earth. Will just know how to manage it better in the
spk_2: 36:17
future, huh? And it into, like, you know, a couple of things that I would say number one. Be very innocents. Hard man Like it is one thing that really just drives me. I was I was watching their there, some educated fools out here. All right, Be very, very careful about what you listen to. Be very careful about the information that you're getting, Um, like, I just thought Is this is this doctor basically ranted about? You know how this is? Just, you know? Oh, foolishness. That's a hoax. It vaccines a garbage and vaccines don't make any sense. I'm like, and you realize that, you know, this is to this an opportunistic time for people. This is a time where people are taking the opportunity to try to make a name for themselves trying to make themselves standout realize this is rear. People are dying right now in this hospital where I sit in this chair downstairs. There are people won the pennant. There are trucks outside where people are getting hauled out of here. Right? And buying backs like this is really so. Don't let a fool get one on the Internet and believe that this is just a hopes and it's OK. It's not a buffet. This is something different and we've never seen before and realize you have to take the precautions when this vaccine does come out right. Everything that we've had, all the plays that we've had for measles, mumps, rubella, like, you know, small smallpox, yellow fever, all of these things. We've got over them with vaccines, right and being exposed. So So when it comes to us again, we're ready. Don't be a fool. And I know vaccines that are here to kill us, and, you know, people are making them like, Come on, man, Like, please listen to people that have a logical sense and brains out here like way not try to hurt you. Like like you gotta ask somebody like, are you from ground form or you like, if you really got a question like ask people like us. I'm not gonna tell you nothing that I'm not gonna tell my mama, my sister, my cousin or my family. I will tell you exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm not going to tell you to take something that I wouldn't tell my own daughter and my son and say So that's what you need to listen to Number one number two, like, one week as we as we navigate through this thing. And I think that the initial question waas was like, You know what? You asking my what we needed to themselves? Duda t get past this of whenever one does. Yeah, from the mental health perspective. Yet have not coped. Couple different eggs and I will be real brief. Number one. I will never be insensitive. The anybody a Sfar, It's like their finances are concerned. Most of our community are not prepared to withstand months without making money. Right? You know, that's that's something that we try to teach. That's something that that that that the three of us have have been blessed so have you know the the ability to withstand such a hit when we understand that many people cannot. So when we have to learn how important in the future once we get out of this, how important in the future with financial planning and how we spend our money and putting and structuring ourselves for tomorrow to be able to take this hip when things happen like this. So I asked for now I heard somebody say, Like, Look, you got credit cards Maksym out like don't go hungry like, you know, like you live like don't don't worry about getting stuff right now. Now it's time to feed your family. You get through it if you're not able to work or what Have you taken credit cards out on charges charged to the game? Worry about it later. But, like, you know, don't don't, uh, worry about the debt right now is what I'm trying to say. Like, you feed your families the best way that you possibly know how and to asses, Far as you know, just a mental health perspective. Focus on your life in yourself. Like if nothing else, this time is an opportunity for you. to reflect on how to improve yourself. How to make yourself better. How to venture off the two things that you always say I don't have time for. I can't do this like, you know, if you wanted to be, you know. Ah, Barber. You know, if people in your house start kind of start looking at YouTube videos, now is the time. That's right. Now is the time. You will never have another type of like this in history, which are life. Well, you don't have anything else to do but to focus on yourself, your life, and improving the things that you need to do to save actual life. So taking full advantage of it is if you've not every day a why you take like I know Netflix is good, but don't take eight hours a day watching Netflix take 45 hours. Like we tell these kids like you don't know what you want to do when you get older. Se 30 minutes an hour a day trying to research what you're trying to do right now, you have the time and opportunity and with social media as well as Google and all the search engines you have. You can really put together a plan to make your life better, So when this is over, you have a master plan to advance your life and get get to also a higher level
spk_0: 41:44
runned out. I want to go on a honor. I think it's very important with Max and fears sand. But don't only footnote that out. It's on this. It is not the time for you to stop any medications that you're on. It is very important that if you have mental health problems and you are medication, that you find the resources to continue those medications because we have to keep in mind that one thing is not going to stop. You can have a medical problem, a mental problem. But if you do something illegal, they're going to treat us. If you don't have a medical problem and you don't have to help problem, you're going to still do the time. So this is definitely time that if you are medication, take your medication. If you're not on the kitchen and you feel like something is going on, speak with the physician that you very comfortable with so that they can help you and assist you with medication if needed. And one of these missed that. We have to really talk about and not be very brief on it. And that is just because you are on and tied. The persons don't make you crazy. Correct. It doesn't mean that we're gonna be on it for life. This is this is a time that many people throughout the world is going through some mental challenges. So take advantage of that and if is needed, see your physician.
spk_1: 43:18
Wow. So let me go to cause you guys said a couple things Dr Max you talked about. Hey, if conditions are safe enough, take a walk, take a walk, get some fresh air, take a walk Now, following precautions social distancing so on and so forth and then and Dr P s
spk_2: 43:38
and stuff gets
spk_1: 43:39
some songs sung Vitamins? Yeah, Vitamin D is crucial. Um, And then, Dr Pierre, you just kind of alluded to just kind of this whole idea of taking care of yourself from a financial standpoint, if you have to Hey, look, don't start. You know you're not work in the income is not coming in. Don't don't allow this whole fear to stop you from taking care of your everyday needs food, shelter, whatever we need to do legally. And here this is my concern, fellas. And you can kind of let me know what you think about it. So my concern with school not being in session, which I believe was the right decision as an educator and then our communities I live born on the south side of Chicago still live in Chatham area. What I'm concerned about is kids are not in school. Almost 1/2 a 1,000,000 kids, no jobs. Then this whole survival mindset like, man, if I have to poke somebody, I'm a poke somebody because I got to eat. So what I'm trying to do is create platforms like this. I don't know what I'm doing right, but I'm like we need to do the born and win podcast. And what better people toe have medical professionals? My brothers, actually, on the fourth member of posted perseverance, if you all to know that that's right. Um but the have medical professionals that know what they're talking about because we got to be careful where we get information from it this time because I was hearing like I at first it was like a the cove in 19 don't affect black people. And so people were not taking this serious. You had youth out, parade in the flesh, people out, and then all of a sudden and member start coming back with a high number The I mean, it was going ridiculous with the number of deaths in our black community. So and then and then what I hear Ah, Dr Joe talking about is Hey, look, if you're on an anti depressant, this is not the time to stop, because people are trying to find coping mechanisms during this time to deal with mental health that are not healthy. You exasperate issue or situate situation if you're not taking care of that situation. And so, guys, I'm gonna go to a couple questions because, man, our time, it's moving fast. So let me see if I can pull this question up real quick here because I think it's really important that as we as we navigate this information that we kind of like feed into some of the people in here. So, like we talked a little bit about your journey that led into the medical field. We talked about coping. 11 question that I did have I think this is Ah, good one is, um, like we've been hearing, like in the media, how has been described the covert 19 toe off? Tow us. But what can you share? That's not being said in the media. Translate to let's talk about the 14 to 20 year old who not really watching the news. And they kind of out, How can you break it down, tow us for that group
spk_2: 46:57
And for the 14th 20 years ago, like and a lot of these kids, like even my own family. Man, I got you know, I got younger brothers manage. You know, they, uh, you know, they driving for Amazon. Whatever. Not tell the gnome like you, no matter. Not understanding that. Yeah, it might not. Impact, right? You you may get it. It is about an issue, but it comes back. You can see the house and our mothers tear right. She could die from this. It's all good. Your mama, your mama, right? And until an impact you and that in and that framework like you're not taking it seriously, but man, take it from all of us like we are. Seeing people die from this man like people are, is. And it's not just older folks, some younger folks that some people that just have other health issues, whether it be bronchitis, whether the asthma, whether it be some immuno compromised state like Lupus or something like that, Like like people are getting this and their reaction to it is not like yours, right? Those are the people that you are looking out for. Everybody has somebody like that in a family. So if you if you have it from a mind frame of mind set that you know, I would be good or what have you open your mind up and look at everybody in your family and realize that everybody in your family cannot take this virus like you're going to take it. And if you love him and you want him here and you want to keep, you know, being able to talk to a woman can continue to interact. You need to take these precautions because when they get it, it's gonna be a completely different story.
spk_3: 48:37
And I just want to add to that just really quick because I know it may be moving sass, but, you know, I mean, this is this is really well, you know, that's how you gotta look at, you know, uh, you know, we from sometimes, you know, like they say, you know, you know, this is like the invisible up for the kids out there was lesson. You know, it's something to wear once you get it. You have no idea how your body is going to react to it, because I don't want to get too much into the mechanism of action of this thing. But it's basically the It's basically something that causes the stealth, your immune cells in your biking that usually fights off infection. It causes those cells to just attack everything so they not only be attacking the cells that they think are bad, they're attacking your healthy cells to, and this is going on inside lungs. This is going on inside of the protective layers of your heart. This is going on inside of your kittens. And so what we're seeing now in there for the kids who think that Oh, they don't second that they can get it. I've literally taken care off six patients who are younger than me. We're no longer here. Let me tell you what is the most staff thing about all of those situations, and this is going on across America. But there's no nothing more heartbreaking than knowing that somebody who has a family whose loved within their family, right, they're done and they're sitting there die and their loved ones. I can't even come into the hospital to see them, to say there last wishes or the last prayers with That's hard. Great, right? We're sitting in that you have have nurses in our hospital right now who it is. Just showing spouses is showing sisters issuing brothers, kids off uncles, whoever they're showing them on Facebook live their family member before they expired. That's heartbreaking. You have people out there right now who are dying from this, and they can't even get the proper standoff. The proper birth amongst their family members. That is the most heartbreak insane, particularly when you're talking about families and you have patriarch parts of families, matriarchs of families, people you don't people such as us who are going before their time to come to this disease and they can't even get the proper standoff from all of their loved ones. That is the most heartbreaking thing, right? And then, like the ESA, you have situations where you people you state that you know. Okay, well, I'm young. I'll take my chances. But again, the dynamics of our communities and there's different levels of privilege when you think about it. There is a large fraction of Americans live in spaces that are less than 1000 square feet. So if what? All that taste This virus is so highly transmissible. And that's another thing. The virus is so highly transmissible. This is not something where you need to necessarily cough on somebody or sneeze on somebody to catch the way could literally be shared in the same airspace, and it will travel and you can contract. But this is this is something that is highly transmissible. So we're spaces and we're sharing space is all it takes is for one person to be a responsible or not. Take the proper precautions and you are putting the lives in the huddles in the world fit everybody around you at risk.
spk_1: 52:27
Anybody want to add to that? I know we got Ah, we got a couple more minutes to go. But I definitely want to take our time with this because this is an important conversation. And again, if you are tuned in and you're listening, I want you to share that link because it's going to replay. We need to get this information out. Listen to me. We need to get this information out. Um and I like what Dr Joe just said. Look, Hey, man, we have to make sure that we not categorizing ourselves right thinking that, OK, it's always going to be this way. I'm on the antidepressant. This that and the other. And and as Dr Max alluded to look, we in a war. So my pastor used to always say, You can never prepare for war in the middle of a war. It preparation for war takes place. Before the war, we all got caught off guard. And so what I'm telling everybody is this is an opportunity to reset. This is opportunity to work on self. This is opportunity to figure out what's going on in your head space, right? Deal with that. Don't run from it. Don't deny it. Deal with it. head on. Get the proper help, right? Make the proper connections. The thing that hurts me, Dr. Pierre, that you just said is we haven't resource. Is that some of us, for whatever reason, not taken advantage of not knowing what's going on. Can you just re share that? And then, Dr Joe, you can jump in. But can you just re share the information? How do we get access to some of these? Resource is is there Time is their location. What can we do to get access to these? Resource is
spk_2: 54:09
aspires as far as information.
spk_1: 54:12
Yes, faras information any any opportunities to You know, a lot of people are wondering, um, you know, if I'm filling these symptoms, what's the process? How do I go about that process? Is there like a place where I can go get tested, like can you just kind of shit light? And then a few guys from Louisiana perspective kind of share light because we don't know who is watching right now in the world.
spk_2: 54:37
01 thing I will say is that one positive thing that I think over it is the, uh uh at least for me it has it has allowed and like to be shined a shown on black professionals and people that, uh, you didn't even really realize we're out there. Just the exposure media. Um and it's allowed that the light to take away from athletes and entertainers and actually look to see who's out here in these trenches, trying to help our communities and trying to make the world a better place. These people people come and it was ill. It has been eye opening for me, and it's been very enlightening. And I implore, Everybody is out there. I mean, if you, you know people are on social media all the time. What happened? But you got you got to see these black refresh because I is black boys and black doctors, black engineers just like pretty much everything in our here's, you know, that are given and perspectives that are getting in their updates that are given tips, uh, what they're seeing, how they, you know, helping impact in their community. Like look, take your time and listen to some of the excellence that we have going on around here. And more importantly, having a kid is looking. It's too, you know, imprinting is cute, you know, And start having your kids look at a lot. Mr. Garbage is out here. Look it Look, you know, I said it the other day, like, you know, I can't see it enough. Take time Videos week with professional black. Uh, you know, I can't see enough. You know, it is awesome for me again. When winning the world, you will see this ever again. So take advantage of it, enjoy it and utilize it. But they are, you know, in in specific answer to your question There there are testing centers that are all around that are starting out all around with their starting to pop up. More, more. I know there are a few of Chicago that popped up. There's 11 like 167th. Where the light right by, uh, where you get your emissions testing from. Think that might e I'm gonna miss. I don't know which summer, but wherever that admissions test, it might be Country club hills where you but it's a dry, a dry book. Ah, testing of ability. That's on the staff side that south people can go. But these these centers are around if you have e any symptoms, you know whether you're coughing and whether you have a fever. You know, whether you're started breath, you have any issues about their call? I'm
spk_1: 57:25
like, that was on cue, man, that was on
spk_2: 57:27
cue. But you have any of it? Seriously, you know, be honest about it. Like that's the biggest thing. Like, be honest about it and realized that, you know, be proactive, Not only with your help, where everybody's health around you, Um, this is the time to really focus on, you know, proper nutrition and exercise literally like, you know, you know me. Uh, you know, and my friends have been posted videos of work out of whatever, uh and I'm more so trying to motivate us. I'm trying to motivate us. Said, like, really realize that, you know, our health is so important. And it's a fact that we have food. Deserts is the fact that we don't have access to produce and so healthy foods. But the things that we can't control our you know, the manning that those foods are there and that they're not they're being cognisant of the fact that they aren't there and take extra steps to make sure that you have balanced diets, fruits, vegetable, lean meats and put those in your diets instead of some of the garb way putting in and score ourselves. And the things that you can always control is exercise, You know, states for yourself and exercise. You got plenty of time. Right now, the heart is the most important muscle in your body. Take care of exercise. You do those things now that we have the opportunity and, more importantly, just realized what was going on. If you don't hit nothing else, I realized that there is like like like my doctor Max. Just saying It's a war is the water on my lives. It's a war. Want our livelihood, our communities and realize that how are we going to allow it to just continue to happen and can see you lose it? Or we're gonna realize what's happening? Our steps within our families without our collective communities, are fighting this war, and we do that itself and taking care your stuff and looking out for your health.
spk_0: 59:27
I don't I don't think I'll add to that and answer your question. Um, the majority of people have trouble. They have some form, a way of getting from the Internet, and I would encourage many. So just go to the CDC website on the PC. I think it'll be a great resource to just see what's going out going on. I mean, you have sitting in, you have all those states, but you can go directly to the source people to the CDC website, Um, and to piggyback on what Max was saying is that this is a you know, and it goes beyond, um, covert night game. Remember that you could have a family member just is myself. That has nothing to do with it. I think where they pads away at this, um, the sacrifice that you or your family is gonna have them make it is drastic, you know, for my situation is in people, that's all that go to the truth. That means my is cannot even go to see their grandfather. So ask personal to me. So it makes a difference to be person B that people will take this seriously. People where their mask that washed it and and then continue to social distance themselves from people until we get all debts
spk_1: 1:1:00
cool. We're gonna take one or two questions from the audience. Ah, and then we're gonna let these guys get out of here. Um, because they are extremely busy, and we are really, really grateful that they took their time. Um, you know, to get on here and share with everybody. So if you have any questions Ah, whether you on YouTube or Facebook, go ahead and send those right now, we want to make sure that we give everybody a chance to interact. Anybody got any questions?
spk_2: 1:1:54
Those talks too much, man,
spk_1: 1:1:57
it's on me here. But I'm trying to get some to pull in right now. Um, but here, here's here's one that that, you know, we have from just our our perspective. If you guys could have, like, a gigantic billboard anywhere with anything on it as a message for millions of billions of people, what would it say and why?
spk_3: 1:2:25
Well, uh uh, Well, you know, anytime sti us, you know, it's ah, we we You know what? Our story. I wrote a book that will touched thousands of people, and they're quite a few things. And within that book, um, but the story, um, it's bigger than the story, and it's bigger than us, right? When you see us, we always want to know. We feel like we touched different communities, but typically community we want when I kissed DPS, one of you know that with them and their us. So we have our our slogans and models. We say the ghost town of changing narrative Tom shift the culture and that holds a lot of weight in R P because it says a multitude of things. But you kind of have to be from where we come from to understand what that means. It's though, uh, one of those things is just us. It is young black man. We need to just take more charge, take more charge of our communities, take more homes, take more charge. What's being federal entities, take more charge of everything, man. It's just everything in the media and how it portrayed young black men is is peddled every night. And it's not only the world at large that absorbed that information. We resolved that information, so we need to find a way to continue toe toe highlight the pocket of things that black men are doing out here it's This is bigger than us, right? This is just, you know, this is this is bigger than you. This is bigger than you know, my brother's distance. This is us as, ah, generation off people who are in between hope that those post crack babies and the future kids and what they're storming right now. And we're trying to push up a narrative saying, Okay, there are multiple ways, art and society that you can drive, and those ways of thriving are completely different from what's being fed daily on television. So we like you're still not we We applaud anybody who is a person of color who cost from the troll who is out here doing something impactful to change the outcomes of how our kids are able to function in society. So we big up anybody Ministers, are this movement is waiting that on us, and we just hope it continues to alter some of the statistics that we know that stated that out there, you know, it doesn't matter what profession that you're in. If you are in any highly advanced profession, I guarantee you when you look at the data, African Americans make up 6% less on the top of fish where that is in the truck city, because we make up at least 13 14% of this population in America. So there's still a tremendous amount of work that needs to be done. And we can't be fooled by the LeBron's and Oprah's. And in the Jay Z's and Beyonce's that out there who are, you know, they're putting off for the culture. But it's still a fantasy, right? So fallacy that we live in this post racial society. And so you know, this is, you know, America. You can do anything you want to do. Yes, you can do anything you want to do. However, if you're a person of color in this country, this it takes a whole different level off and testing afforded to and stuff reflection to supersede and advanced your entire community fold. And so when we say it's time to change in their time to shift the culture, those are just the things that we're talking about,
spk_2: 1:6:49
what I'm, how much more blood in less politically correct, my father said. Black people wake the hell up like seriously, like it's just it's time out. We'll talk like either with long continue to accept the scraps that were nipping or we're going to unify and demand better for ourselves. Our families in our communities. Um, you know, again, we have the power to make change. If we unify together, it's too much. Isolation is too much worrying about self. We weren't way don't come from that. Our ancestors weren't on that. Our parents, our grandparents, they weren't on that. And what? There was a sense of community, and it was a sense advanced me on uplift that's in our d. N A. It is 10 Argies and we have to get back to and nothing else shows to anything else that these times have to bring that out of us and that, you know, that's not this talk. It's action and that action starts with us starting to make protests starting toe boycott. Aggie starting to actually have its ants movements to, uh, make specific change. Just that we want to see how I know. You know. The biggest problem is that yet we don't have any Doctor Martin Luther King's anymore. We don't have you know that Malcolm X anymore. But there are people. There are leaders that are out here that are trying to do that. Don't just watch them get behind them and let's unify together and not against these. That's what I
spk_3: 1:8:37
say. And so just a piggyback off off what Peter said, uh, to meet. But it's more than just It was more than just protest. That's the me like I'm not going. I'm not going to say that we're past protests. What I want when I want to say, is that with the information, the great equalizer it. So I think everything in regards to black people in our advanced it is the ability to use information to help each other, right? We're living in a time where, um, you concerned you could just go on your phone, And if it's something that's inch that interest you, there's a wealth of information out there. It depends on whether or not you're willing to hope will be open to receive that access. There are people out there who are again, even though we're positions there, people out there who are investors there, people out there who are entrepreneurs. There are people out there who are using group epic economics. Right now, those are things that are again like I that are in our aunt to ancestry. They're utilizing economics in order to make change. Alright, because not everybody is going to be that CEO. But everybody like you, said, like I heard you say about everybody, all the kids. Everybody has a god given gift that they can be they can utilize in order to catapult themselves and their families to another level. The problem. The part of the issue is the lack of mentorship and the lack of access to those people's right. But there are people out there who are utilized social media or utilizing the power of YouTube to help others. And so when when we say change in editorship the culture, that means that like that means like, you know, whatever it is that you want to do, find you find your power circle behind your team, so t be able to create a way to wear a huge change outcomes and you change circumstances and it doesn't have to be like you don't have to be the next influential person like you. Don't ask. You don't like Our community needs so much work that we don't need that strolling in leaders like the leadership start something yourself that you go on, that you're going to find a way toe, make exchange within you like the leadership starts within your home. Like when it comes to like rebuilding. Oh, are actually generational person, right? And then what? You find that scene? And once you find that that power structure that catapult, that's what's going to help us as a community elevates aware, we're not sitting there standing outside some building protesting all day, and I don't get
spk_2: 1:11:23
me wrong. I sometimes wake boycott. You have no protest, is talking, boycotting his action like five. If you say, Look, I'm not gonna give you, you know, we're not getting this. So what have you What happened? What happens right now? Have everybody on the south side of Chicago just said All right, Well, we not we're not We're not going through. Uh, Jules, we're not going to a Wal Mart. We is gonna go into, you know, the small, uh, you know, markets of this community and start impacting. You know, that dollar and in and they lose millions from that. Then what happens, right? Or you're like all right. Look, we're going. We're gonna fill up this week, and we're not like we're not even taking gas way. Not even getting gas for the next week or two. Whatever it started impacting, like the taxes and the tax structure of the city. Um, so where now, like, you know, male life put and everybody and on and on the council is looking at It was like, man, this week, there was a serious impact in the dollar. Now let's listen. So what they're talking about, they do that again. We don't have to start laying people off from from from seeing perspective, and that's gonna hurt. So now let's listen, it starts. Ah. You know, put some of these resource is where that comes from unification and actually making a statement with your month. You know, this world revolves around money when you start moving the money as people started losing money, then they started. Listen, that's the only way they listen.
spk_3: 1:12:57
Well, I just I just think we could take that same investment. And to me, you shouldn't even take a time like this in order to do that. It's just there, There. I guarantee you. There are producers in Chicago right now who are persons of color who already through service people from their community. Actually, they're not being supported from people. Now you
spk_0: 1:13:21
have your support is that
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they're not awarded from people in there,
spk_2: 1:13:25
and that's what I'm saying that they are there. It's better. Instead of someone in this money off, it's up to people and not getting anything back Put our money and so and so black owned businesses like we did back in the day and say All right, well, we're just gonna keep recycling our own dollar. You will lose money. And when you're ready to start putting some money into our communities when you're ready to start, actually put money into Chicago opponent schools. So these damn kids and I going, you know, here and not being educated and not having any chance. You know, I heard of since I heard, like, some study or statistic that they're looking at test scores from the kids and third grade, and that's how the invading on with on how they're they're putting money into jails and prisons. Like when it made sense to put money into trying to educate these now 33 kids instead of putting the money into these them jails and in prisons. Right? But that's not happening because we're not demanding for that.
spk_1: 1:14:22
Yeah, and I think, like, you know, it is correct. That's why we have to get this information right. Come together, unite. And I think, like the whole support. That's why when I heard about poster perseverance, I'm like, man. And then I was honored when you actually to be a board member. I was like, Whoa, these guys are serious And it wasn't like, Oh, no, like a We got a corner on this thing. It was like less partner together and let's use what you got and let's bring it together. And I'm like, Okay, let's use your bring you all to the Champs born win conference share y'all stories share y'all narrative. And now we working together across not just the city but across the world. And then we bring in these resource is back to our community. Why is because we had the struggle just like our young brothers and our sisters? Right? And so now we have this moral obligation t come back like the Harriet Tubman give the information so we can free everybody. Now is gonna be some people. Like now I'm to keep doing what I'm doing right, and you're gonna die in the wilderness. But if you say you know what, I won't change. I'm tired of this is not working unless you night come together and create create our own like to total black Wall Street. It was, of course, 1921. We know what happened, but the reality of it is we have power in unity. I got one. I got two questions from the audience. One question came. It says a lot of black people from Lindsey dates. Ah, who's a good friend of mine? A lot of black people have asthma. What are the main differences in symptoms? Uh, yeah, I believe from Cove in 19. You can clarify, but unbelieving Is there like a difference that we can tell.
spk_2: 1:16:08
So I just like I like you said I said this earlier in the show. Um, with Kobe, the way your body reacts to it, you have
spk_3: 1:16:18
no idea. Right? So you're usually a person with asthma. If they haven't like an acute asthma, let's back. You know, they have ways right, and they may have been coughing with that as well. The difference is with Covic is that cove it, you can pick up the disease and you can be an asymptomatic care, meaning that you can have it. And it could be actually be a latent face and be a period of five days where you feel absolutely nothing, all right, and then all of a sudden, on Day five, there's a multitude of symptoms you can have. It doesn't just mean you don't necessarily have to have shortness of breath. You can have their some patients who were coming in and saying that they had, ah, lack of taste like they couldn't take this thing. You couldn't taste their food. Some people were saying that they couldn't have had no smell right. They could smell anything. There's some people who actually saying that Oh, they thought they just had a stomach virus. They would have any like extreme cramps. And the reason why your habit you have such a broad range of those symptoms is because when the virus one the again, I don't want to get too technical or medical with the terminology that lose people But But what happens is it's like your immune system. You have the cells that within your immune system that are trying to attack the virus there are attacking any. They're going at any organ system within your but some patients coming in with chest today and when we actually do the studies and we do the investigation, those places have something called viral myocarditis, which is basically an inflammation of the protective layer around. So call it itself is and again these and mind, you have mentioned nothing about fever, cough or chills, right? So the way it's presenting with still learning as a medical community as we go, the symptoms are so broad and so very that you don't necessarily have to have fever and shortness of breath and cough. Now, of course, if you have those things, you go get tested. But again, the virus. It's so non specific right now because your immune system is just that's attacking everything normal and abnormal cells and affecting different organs within you by
spk_0: 1:18:38
God and find out I put a note on that, then that's what and I wanted to say is that we always talk about hypertension. We talk about diabetes but asthma and itself plays a big factor and the health of African America and realize that when you're that asthmatic state or exacerbation that your longs a compromised so the virus and that coming together, which were in the immuno compromised state Okay, so you'll get a worse reaction to That's something to keep in mind also.
spk_1: 1:19:15
Got it. Another quick question came in, Um, so there's a rumor out there that if you had it, you immune to it. Can you got to spell that rumor?
spk_3: 1:19:27
Yeah, that's that's definitely a room. And I just want o I just again. The misinformation is crazy out there, right? And, uh, right now is what we know and again because we're living in its we're living in a time. Where is people in the medical community that information is coming so rapidly? We're learning about this thing every day. There are cases in Wuhan, China, right now, right? Well, you have people who contracted the virus had symptoms. What hospitalized went home and they're coming back again.
spk_2: 1:20:06
But so you can get it again. You
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can get against, unless let's just dispel that room right now and again. There are we just We just don't know enough about this thing, right? And but there are there is a difference difference to their friends up and actual Strabo. Covert night. Yeah. So there different strains of it that are out there right now. And so people are becoming reinfected. And I wish we could say, Oh, yeah, Once you have it, you'll never get it again. It lives within your but it's a virus. You add if you are one of the fortunate ones that you know, don't succumb to it, Do not get it twisted. It's like saying I'm putting to you just the best way I could put it. People get the flu right? Once they get the flu, the first talks Does that make them immune from ever getting the flu again in their lives? Absolutely not. And that's the best way I can describe that. That myth at the foot of question that that that colleges had,
spk_2: 1:21:12
you can you can You could develop an immunity to that particular strain that that offense but the problem is, is when you're getting tested for Kobe. There are multiple different strains that were tested for so you may have an immunity for a particular strain of it, but you may get infected with an entirely different strain of it as well, too. So it doesn't mean that Yeah, you are completely immune. Like it light. Like Maxwell sand. Uh, you do have some antibodies that are helpful if that puts you a little bit ahead of the game as the next person is completely unexposed. Many things, but it does not mean that you you good it. I mean, you go wherever you could just chill. You know it. You still have to be on a heightened awareness and alert. You know, from from getting a new stranded the virus in. Could you still get sued?
spk_1: 1:22:05
Wow. Hey, listen, everybody. I just want to come in real quick and say this. If you had it, didn't know you had it. You can get it again. And once you get it again, you can continue to spread it again. Does that make sense? And so it's really important, guys that we again we are in the middle of a war. We got to take this seriously, get the information, applied this information, share the information. Why so that you can preserve you yourself, your family, your community and all the people that you love. We don't want to be spreading this thing unaware because of lack of information or myths that are out there. Because that's the newest myth is like, yeah, you want you build up in millions, you can't get it again Once you got Listen, you're her with Dr Max and Dr Pierre just said Okay, so it's very important again that we not just walking around because we not actually demonstrating these symptoms. I'm not necessarily coughing or whatever. Um, I have to make sure that I am taking precaution. I'm practicing. If I have to go out for essential purposes. Social distancing. If you have a master scarf or whatever, you cover the openings up. So you're not spreading it. I think you I believe you said Dr Maximum. You can get it through the air, the environment it can spread that way. Eso again, guys, Man, I just want to take this time. I know we had another question, but I'm a respect your time cause I know you on the front line. I want to say I love you guys man so much. My brother's very chr man. Um, anytime you need me for anything, you know, you already got me, baby.
spk_0: 1:23:40
All right, All right.
spk_1: 1:23:43
It's not Our prayers are with you, my brother.
spk_0: 1:23:48
I appreciate it. Appreciate it.
spk_1: 1:23:50
Any lasting words, fellas? You want You want to let everybody know?
spk_3: 1:23:54
And you know what? You know how you know every rocket man. Time to change the narrative, Thomas. Shift the culture. No matter what you want to be, we don't care. You know, if you you want to be, whether it's blue collar work, whether his white collar work, there's plenty of this this plenty of time, space and opportunity for for, you know, for you to change your immediate environment and change your circumstances to help us get to a level where you know, waken think beyond Like they say thank beyond your ancestors, while these dreams, you know, it was still is this ain't over, man. And it is gonna take, you know, it's gonna It's a group effort. It's community effort. But, you know, we're all in this together, man. Regardless,
spk_2: 1:24:34
I would say pop positivity is to have a popular, But with that being said we won't change, Actually start getting behind positive things. You know, chances are here posted perseverance because I hear what have you like? We should be begging for your attention and begging for life's like we need your help. You just support I wouldn't change the narrative shift the culture We have to have you all behind us, like way Need that, like for champs in and for you to be doing what you're doing about Dale, which is completely commendable. Um, I give my 100% support to it, you know, we should have everybody. Everybody behind that we want to see these thes young black boys Stop killing each other are handy streets. Stop doing craziness out of here. Like we have to actually give behind programs that are empowering that are giving opportunities that are supplying resource Is that air giving mawr than just what we see out here in the media to giving these kids other options and opportunities we have to put our resource is and our energies and our efforts behind these programs that are out here so that we can make a difference. Cool.
spk_1: 1:25:41
You go here. Dr Joe, I'm sorry.
spk_0: 1:25:43
Only thing I was says last but not least, we have to remember that this is not the time to envy anyone and say we need to unite, come together and help each other out. You be the leader of your village and help your neighbor.
spk_1: 1:26:00
Absolutely. So I'm about to put your information on the screen. Y'all links. If you could just share with everybody y'all links to donate, that will be awesome.
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Uh, you know, while our website is www dot uh pulse p three dot com, that's www dot th e p u l s e o f p the number three dot com And on there you can not only find you know more about backgrounds in our story, but also, of course, if you know you're you're kidding. You're driven in your in high school or you're in college And you listening to what we're saying that you completely all it with it. We do have resource is for you. One of those resource is in the form of multi scholarship. Would give $1000 a month to a high school kid O r. College kid in college. She's trying to better themselves because they know. You know, they got mortar. There's more out there. The life. So we're just trying to go
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a covert Stop that you they will
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give up. But it's not stopping that,
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you know, and last. But it's
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when we at Pulse A p three. Um, And on Facebook, where? The official pulse of P three. You
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heard it. You heard it, fellas. Ah, again, man. Thank you all so much for being on the front lines and taking care of us. Man, we appreciate every health care worker every first responder during this time of crisis. You guys are the rial deal heroes, man. And I love you guys. Thank you all so much, man. Take care of yourselves. Why you taking here? Audio A man. Just let me know if you guys need anything. All right, everybody. That was the post of perseverance. The three doctors who transforming the world, giving back right to their communities. And, man, they're modeling exactly what you can become. So you can't tell me that you can't become where they are right now. So again, thank you guys for tuning into the first episode of the Born A Win podcast. We'll see you again. You are
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turning into the border. Windpipe cast show with fun. Dale. Single