Born 2 Win

BORN 2 WIN PODCAST| #2 w/Vondale Singleton| Special Guest Pastor John Hannah #chicago #newlife #pastor #inspiration

April 28, 2020 Vondale Singleton Season 1 Episode 2
Born 2 Win
BORN 2 WIN PODCAST| #2 w/Vondale Singleton| Special Guest Pastor John Hannah #chicago #newlife #pastor #inspiration
Show Notes Transcript

Today's guest is Pastor John F. Hannah is a husband, pastor, speaker, and author who’s impacted thousands of lives through his ministry, prayer, and dedication to service. The foundation for his pastoral passion is rooted in his love for urban youth and teaching others how to grow their relationship with God through prayer. He even began his career as a Juvenile Probation Officer in Chicago’s Cook County and eventually transitioned into serving as a youth pastor at a local church for many years. It was during these times that opportunities developed, leading John to perfect the calling for his destiny as the shepherd of a remarkable organization that would become New Life. 

Today, John F. Hannah is the founder and lead pastor of New Life Covenant Church Southeast, a non-denominational, multicultural church on the Southside of Chicago. Presently, the church has grown to more than 20,000 members, including online membership. While the numbers suggest a megachurch sized atmosphere, the spirit of the house and its members promote a family environment, committed to serving God and our Community.

In addition to pastoring, John F. Hannah is committed to teaching others how to grow their relationship with God through prayer. This is demonstrated every 2nd and 4th Tuesday of the month when he leads 4 AM Prayer at NLCSE, through his spontaneous FB Live and Periscope sessions, and at various churches and venues around the world. He is also the best-selling author of What to Do While You're Waiting and Desperate for Jesus. 

John F. Hannah lives in Chicago, IL with his wife of 26 years, Anna Hannah -  who also serves alongside him. She is dedicated to supporting his vision and the mission of New Life Covenant Southeast.

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we'll send somebody into the ring that's not related to you.

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Some of your like minded. I hope you have failed them. Tell you to call them anytime you need them or their different people. That got a fit in the ring and they're literally fit that. Make

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sure that should be everything you're supposed to be. Welcome back to episode number two, baby. And guess what we got. Pastor John had on hand is in the house and I'm a tell y'all before we bring him in. Uh, he is a man of the cloth, but he is also a man of the community. A couple years ago, I reached out to new life through Minister Brown. Thank you, Minister Shamari. I say, Hey, we need to get past or Hannah at our born A win conference. And all along they're planning the prayer on the nine Coriander nine was happening. Call me like a man. Speaking of which, we nominated the Champs Male Mentoring Group to get the community grant from new life. And I was like huh? He was like, Yes, make sure young man are at the prayer on the nine and pastor hand is gonna call you up and let me tell you something. It's a lot of people that say they about this life of giving back but Dennis, very few people that follow through in a tangible way and as a non profit anybody that's running nonprofits know how extremely hard it is to sustain the non profit organization. And so when we got there in past a Hannah Father Flagler was there and thousands and thousands of people we're gathered there. And when I kind of call me up to receive the $5000 grant. Um, pastor, that meant so much to me, to our organization and our boys and young men of color that we trying to help. And so, man, thank you so much for that. And then that following months he came and he ripped the ring. The stage. We still trying to piece it back together over Gary Coma, you center. We had a men's conference that he did there, but then he spoke at the champs born a win conference and, let me tell you, is still one of my favorite all time messages, and I went toe or drivers. I don't hurt 10,000 messages in my lifetime. But that message right there you went on levels, my friend. Well, since somebody into the ring, that's not related to you

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in some of your like minded

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hope give upping failed them. Hotel

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you to call them anytime you need them or their different people. That got a sin injury. And they're literally sent that. Make

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sure that should be everything you're supposed to be. I want everyone to give a round of applause toe Pastor John Hannah. Welcome, Pastor. Tell us your story. Tell us who you are. Welcome to the podcast.

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First of all, Mandela only salute to I honor you for doing you, bro. Many a car with fewer chosen. And I think that you and I have something very familiar. We love our city, and we're concerned about the next generation. So are you carrying the torch and being thankful and consistent? So what's love to you? No problem.

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Blesses, huh? Thank you

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up. Chicago. Born and raised in Chicago, I am a part of satirical housing authorities. I grew up in the Abla homes right there. Roosevelt and racy. Okay. What? We used to call down the street for what we used to call Jew town

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Jew town.

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So I went to great skill over their holy family and then end up getting a scholarship. Going downtown to Cathedral has changed my life because it was a change of environment. Um, and from there it was a nun that took me to a gentleman that used to sin black kids out of Chicago to go to college. Silence premiere at eight. S. McKinnon

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Wow, a non

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A nun, a white None took me to the basement of a projects to see a man by the name of Silence Purnell. And she said to him, um, he's a good student. He just needs a chance. An opportunity. So salads. Pernille, get me into Alabama State University on probation. I'll never forget you picked the phone up the car Alabam say an extent to do him a favor. So I say to Everyone was listening. One opportunity can change your whole life.

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One opportunity can change your whole life.

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One opportunity, but it is up to you to seize that opportunity. So then, with the Alabama state, majored in criminal justice and came back as a juvenile probation officer and worked in the Englewood community. So there I've always been in this city. Always worked in this city in Northern constancy.

spk_1:   5:22
So how long So you majored in criminal justice ended up. And so you got to tell us, like, what was your journey from that going into ministry.

spk_0:   5:36
So I ended up being a youth pastor, a youth leader at my church again, everything was involved around that generation, Um, in the being called to preach in my twenties, but knew that I was called Help the City of Chicago. I think that when you call to do this, it's a passion for you. Wake up. You eat it, you drink it. Um, and from there I started a youth conference getting kids off the street during spring break. So for 10 years, but it's something called I Want SBC, which was amazing, is a non for profit. And every spring break, we kept kids off the street for a gospel music to them had the concerts and everything. And when I stopped doing that, I had 10,000 gun

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Wow, 10,000 young people

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at the

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1000 Wow.

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And give them a free concert downtown at Navy Pier. Kirk Franklin all the top dogs for artists. I brought them and everything was free to me. And so

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now what year was this around, Pastor?

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Who are you taking me? Back number. It was missing. My churches is But about 20 years ago,

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About 20 years ago. Time flies

spk_0:   6:56
five from my church is 16 years old, So yeah,

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and by the way, he passes the wonderful new life. Right? 20,000 members. And tell us the back story of how you started new life.

spk_0:   7:11
So very weird. Here it is. I don't know, a black college so black. And the Lord tells me I reading Scripture in Genesis 12. And God said to Abraham, get thee out of that father's house and from among the and kindred. And go where I will show you. And I end up leaving my church that I have been in the 19 years Mm. Up at a Puerto Ricans hurt. Can you believe

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we concerts?

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A porter re concerns I got. What am I doing here? I'm Onley black up in there. Me and my wife and the pastor. I knew because he was with me when we used to do our youth conferences and He looked at me and he says He says, I see what's on you. I see what's in you. It doesn't scare me. It doesn't intimidate me. As a matter of fact, I want to plant it.

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Okay. Wow. A lot of competition of your anointing. You're calling to interfere. What was in you? He saw it in you. He spoken and said, Hey, we gonna help bring it out

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right? And that's hard for people who know that the hand of God is on your life to trust people. Because if you're not careful, you give with somebody who has the spirit of Saul. Mm. If they want to do is still a dagger that you and try to pin you to a wall. But he was the one that really helped me. His name was afraid of the cases with the same age. I ended up being there four years and then he planted me. You say? I think you're ready now. He told me a person he's not. He's not gonna prank you until you have a past. His heart. Ah, it's so planete of four years. And from there we took off.

spk_1:   9:06
Wow. So four years What were some of the lessons that you learned in those four years being under. And this is very important for people to understand. Everybody wanna go from a disease instantly. But you submitted yourself. You allow the process and and we talk about mentor ship all the time. But you allow you your anointing to go under another man. What were some of the lessons that you learned in those four years?

spk_0:   9:34
There's a scripture that says he that is great among you must become servant.

spk_1:   9:39
Yes, sir. Yes.

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Before before you can carry the briefcase. You must. First, we're in April. Mm. And so I learned to serve there, and I realized it pastoring and preaching was more than a microphone in a pulpit.

spk_1:   9:57
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   9:58
Um E had a food shutter and one of the things that he had me to do Monday Waas. He says I want to come here every Thursday, and I want you to come to this shelter with these homeless me and our and I want you to do a seven minute devotion with them. And then I want you to fix him something to eat. I want you to see them I love all this outside. Yeah, if I would have to drive all the way to the north side. Um, the show, too didn't open toe eight or 8 30 going to give them a devotion. And then I would have to fix Let's see these men sit down, talk with him, Didn't get in a van, make some sandwiches, get in the van and go under by. That's looking for homeless people and serving them. And as I begin to serve, not that hurts community.

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Yes, sir.

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Because I believe that the church community is a dated community. But we all look alike. Tough. It might sound a life. And you don't look like us talk like us. But it does. Then we accept the gate. Yeah, I go outside the gates, and when I got out, there was this is it.

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Yes, sir.

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It to seem that those that have that are hopeless. Now you're in the valley of the driver

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who talk about that.

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Now You're serving those that when I was hungry, you family when I was naked, you clothed me the Now you doing this? It broke me that I realized that I had been in this gated community. Um, doing this. But the call of my life was greater than this.

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Yes, sir.

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And so it made me. Now do what I do. Make me now. It made me We live to serve, not live to get.

spk_1:   11:54
Yes, sir.

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I live Look for and need.

spk_1:   11:59
Yes, sir. So? So so here. You You listen to the process of what we call servant leadership, right? Serve in leadership. You want to be the chief amongst them. You must learn to serve.

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Gotta serve. And that's something that people don't get. Because now we're in Today is build your base. Build your fan base, build your brand, build your image, get you some followers And you're so busy working on that that you're not meeting a me. The only need that your meeting is your own Deco. So you're constantly feeding yourself with so many people are waiting to be fed.

spk_1:   12:45
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And and here's the thing. So we are in a in a place of this pandemic and off. And I've also said that we have an epidemic going on on top of a pandemic. And there is like, this uncertainty on what life will look like after this storm. So can you talk about like, some storms you've experience? And how did you overcome? What did you do to cope with some of those strike high level stresses to help the people out today, as far as what we dealing with or even in your personal life, just like how did you overcome like, similar test tries, temptations, storms that you've had?

spk_0:   13:32
I think one of the main thing is that we, as believers, always say he's my personal lord and savior personal. The only way that I made it is that he had to be personal. The point that when all else fails, I knew that I could get to him. I had a release. It simply Kim. I love telling my story. My deal of how I accepted Christ, my faith. I'm 56. I said the crisis. The age of 17. I was in the basement of the Turks. We would have a choir rehearsal, and it's like the power of Dr came in the basement and touch me. And I found myself in the corner crime. I walked from the church, walked home win in my bedroom closed the door, got down on my knees and invited Jesus into my life. Personal. Wow, personal. And from that day, he and I have had this personal relationship. And so when he says lo, I am with you always I have learned to navigate whatever season I'm Ian, knowing that he is with me even when I don't feel him or see him.

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Yes, sir.

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I mean, look at scriptures When the three Hebrew boys in the firmest is they're going in the fire, they don't see him. But once they get in the fire, that is when we see four.

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Yes, sir. Before walking

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just to keep it moving and know that he because right now people are paranoid. People are fearful anxiety, everything. If you feel the stretch in your throat, you like Oh, God, stop. The devil is a bluffer, and I know they it is that he has me and I am with him. So that is what helps me, um, navigate through all of his stuff because I don't know nothing else. I know that he is with me.

spk_1:   15:41
Yeah, and it's personal.

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It is personal for

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any personal and times like this. If you out here and you watch. No, you listening. The reason why we created the Born to win is because we truly believe that every person is born a win in every situation in life. There is not a situation in life where God hasn't created a master plan. He's gone before, and he said he up. I knew this was gonna happen in and catch me off guard, but this is when we tap into that personal relationship that pastor hand is talking about. And, ah, when when he was at the conference, one of the things pastor that you share and it was so sobering and so powerful was about your father and the lack there off of his involvement in your life. And I know you had a stepfather, but can you just talk about why didn't that stop you from pursuing the things that you were purpose and called to do?

spk_0:   16:43
Yeah, I had. Daddy is she was growing up. I remember my father, Um, I probably ended up in prison and then when he got out, he came that see me, And then I would say I'm coming to see you and wouldn't show up and I long for that father. I had a step father in the house, but and I say to anyone that marries someone like Children, please make sure that you love their Children the way you love your own. Okay? I was that step child, and I saw the blatant difference in the way that he treated me and the way that he treated his Children. So that wasn't feeling that bullet. Um, he told me I better. Eighth grade graduation didn't show up. So maybe it's the color of the high school graduation. Did. She told me I'd be get your grade school, high school, college. I'll be reading did show up. And so my father eventually ended up. He always smoked marijuana. He always looked around. And then, to my surprise, he in the with heroin due to a relationship that he got in and ended up dying in an abandoned building, it would be positive because he used bat needles. Wow, May. And this man was intelligent. He was smart, but this was in our bloodline. And I say that because he really every person should know what's in your bloodline. But seeing your bloodline, Is it look back over your grand parents that if their honesty see what vices have not down different people in your family that is in your blood. Drugs, not bloodline. Illiteracy, my bloodline party. My bloodline.

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Yes, sir. Yes. So

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this is a lie. Eso I remember one day, just like may, I would see fathers with their sons and my heart will feel a certain way. I'm like, man, I wish I had that when I was going toe in one day because it's personal. The Lord said to me I kept him from you. I kept him from getting because one time when I was looking at my first experience with marijuana was with my mother. Let me go. Stay with him. One week here he was the one that said, Let me teach you have a smoke. He was the one that saying he get here. Saga e think I'm everybody 11 12.

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He gave snot gun.

spk_0:   19:18
Yes. Open your mouth. So what is he doing? He's literally passing on generous Imo curses, bloodline, curses. And he's attempting to make me him.

spk_1:   19:34
Yeah,

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and the law says I kept him from me from I kept him from you because he couldn't be trusted with your future.

spk_1:   19:43
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

spk_0:   19:46
And when I felt that I was like And so then the Lord being so mean. So stop crying about what you didn't have and rejoice about what you did have. So then you begin to look at my life. When you were 17 the moment you got saying I put a general in your life by being a Christian, he cuts you and walked with three to line. Make sure he came up with you through college. Then, as you became a younger dote I gave you to remember the name of William James Campbell, who basically taught you how to be a man. Talk to how to be responsible. Touches out address talked You had to goto five star restaurants, expose you to the world, talked to how to be a man of integrity, a preached touch preach a prey into the A 90. And you crying about what you didn't have when you should be celebrating who I put in your life? Yeah. Never cried about him again. And Onley fake God that he kept me.

spk_1:   20:51
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We got a very similar story listening to It's just like the power of mentor ship in discipleship I got say that 17 is well, I grew up in Oughta be Wells housing projects, you know, from the Southside Third Generational Project Kid My mother, she got hooked on drugs. She died when I was 14. She was only 29. She had me when she was 15. My father was young, a teenager as well got incarcerated I became a ward of the court and God sent the man When I was 17 Steven Rae Roberson and like you talked about, he cuffed me and he gave me the blueprint and I was like, OK, I have to be open to this because I had no mother. My father was incarcerated at the time And here is guys sending the man. And so when I got on that first flight, he said, Have you ever flown on a plane? I said, no, sir. We went out to stand for university. Oh, that the bar so high, Right Within the next year here I am at or Robbers University and four years graduate 1st 1 out my family and said, Hey, what do I need to do to pay you back. He said the same thing I did for you do for somebody else I'm talking about. This is this is nothing to play with. So we we may be crying over what we lost, but not celebrating what we have. And that's what you're saying. Llobregat.

spk_0:   22:17
What, though, that you have cuffed though that you have in power? The difference in the thing that scares me now is that there's a generation of entitlement.

spk_1:   22:29
Yes. Talk about this, sir.

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That you there's a part of you that feel like we owe you. So And when you walk around with a spirit of entitlement, when your mentor doesn't give you what you want for the present time, then you had done with them.

spk_1:   22:50
Ah, yes, sir.

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No. Your president is more important than a present.

spk_1:   23:00
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   23:02
Your presence, the lessons in your presence. I just free. And I tell people, young man, that I mentor some things you don't get Now. I pray you get later.

spk_1:   23:16
Uh huh.

spk_0:   23:17
I pray that I'm teaching you how to be a man. How to love your wife. I pray that I'm exposing you. I mean, I've had men. Some young men never had a suit, and I take them to buy them from suit. I bring some of them over my house when I want to purge my closet and I give them clothes and I pour into them at two of them out of the country for the very first time just to expose them

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two of the country.

spk_0:   23:50
Yeah. I ran the streets for three days and we went to London. LeWitt's onto the UK and we went to Paris, Just ran the streets just to expose them. Oh, that's my assignment.

spk_1:   24:09
Yes, sir. You

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know what?

spk_1:   24:12
Yeah. And And I can only imagine now the element of exposure that they have. They have a responsibility to expose somebody else. They can talk about an experience that they wouldn't have had. Has you not said Let me expose you beyond the four walls of the building. Ah, two mile radius of the community of Chicago. Let me get you out into the world. Now let's talk about something. You a man in a claw. Ah, you have a fervent heart for prayer for a M. Sometimes I tune in whenever I can get up. Yeah, Yeah, exactly. But there there is obviously ah, man to on your life. Um, And when we talk about that, we talk about, like, what's kind of your book of knowledge or some books that you can recommend outside of the Bible that you would tell people to read or some books that you've gleaned from over the years?

spk_0:   25:11
There's a book that changed my life is, um, by men by the name of Mike Murdock anywhere the because the assignment. That book changed my life because he talks about once. You know what? Your assignment ears. Then you don't allow anything on anyone to deter you from it. Although some things will be presented to you once you know what your assignment is? Every opportunity that comes to you isn't for you.

spk_1:   25:47
Yes, sir. Talk about it.

spk_0:   25:49
Some opportunities come to get you off of your assignment. So it helped me and I had a lot off Tony days. I mean, when I was working in a juvenile probation officer, Cook County, Um, the headman called me to his office is like, Listen, there's a position available at the county. The trip would represent Cook County. They will give you a company car. Your office will be downtown. And you would just basically drive around all of Illinois. And you just represent the county made of the black man to represent the county. Probably downtown. Interviewed me, took me to the office. It was over. It was a look over your lake. I was like, Oh, my God, I This is this is it. And when I wouldn't know what was like That's not for you Minutes, Max job. Because if you take that job in a feed your flesh, but it will kill your assignment. Who?

spk_1:   26:49
And the book by Mike Murdock The assignment. I love Mike Murdock. He sees a man of practical wisdom. Yeah, And so if you didn't pray and have a personal going back to what you said earlier, you could have missed it.

spk_0:   27:04
I would have missed it. I would have missed it. And everybody they were ready to for and they could. They couldn't believe that I turned it down. Mm. And I was like, No, I can't do it. There's another book. I can't think of. The name of it. The title, The artery other is called necessary endings necessary. Necessary endings. You can google it. Um, this book talks about I love people like I love people. But what do you do when that chapter is over? How do you release people that don't want to be with you anymore? Okay. Or as you run an organization, a business, a ministry, three or whatever. How do you let go? People who are not doing what they're supposed to do? And some things are necessary that you the mission has to be more important than the person.

spk_1:   28:17
Wow. The mission has to be more important. Then the person are you listening?

spk_0:   28:27
You cannot abort the mission because you want the person. Mm. And we have to be honest, some of us are trying to make people into something that they will never be in the book. It's like you could send people to training. You could do all of this. But if they don't want to change all the money that you spent trying to train them, develop them if they don't want it, they'll never be what you're looking. Wow. Necessary,

spk_1:   28:58
necessary endings. And I believe it's by Dr Henry Cloud. I'm not exactly sure, but there's a version that we pulled up called the necessary endings on Amazon, Man. So So looking at your life? No, Pastor, I have to be honest. It looks like you win at every single thing that you do. But I'm sure I'm sure that you probably have some failures in your life. Right. Um so So like somebody right now, they've been laid off their job throughout this pandemic. They don't know about what to do next. How do I navigate this situation? Um, but Wasim it by some practical advice that somebody that's listening or watching right now can do to get back in the game, to not see this failure as their destination.

spk_0:   29:47
Everybody has to have a drop season. Everyone in this thing called life, everyone has to go to the season of lack. Everybody has to have a woman's before you make it to your cane in everyone has to know what the bottom looks like, What the bottom feels like, Um and what it feels like to rebound.

spk_1:   30:11
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   30:12
If you never have that feeling, then you'll never be compassionate to those that have. The greatest joy is knowing that it is a sees in this seasons. change. Yes. The lowest point for me is when I have got laid off. I wasn't working. My mother had become diamos with cancer. I walked turn to care her until the death. I'm married. I've always been the one to take care of my house. I wasn't working. It was the lowest point of my life season. And just when I thought that it was over the phone ring and I like change just like that. So people get the press, take your life. But what if your phone calls come the next day? Wu,

spk_1:   31:06
hold on.

spk_0:   31:08
What? One of your one of your breakthrough is right around the corner is a season. It It's almost like I think about this Monday when he told Joseph to tell Farah, you're gonna have seven days of plenty. But I need you to stack because after that, seven years of plenty, then after that, you're gonna have seven years of famine, so you gonna there's gonna be plenty days and then they're gonna be famine days, and then they're gonna be plenty more days. You just have to make it through the famine,

spk_1:   31:45
make it through the famine. And here's the thing. Listen to me. I've been stressing this over and over and over and over again. This is also an opportunity for you to become the version two point. Oh, of yourself. That could be good about so the doctors talked about on the last episode. If you're on any medication, don't stop taking your medication. This is not the time to stop taking your medication. They told you like this can exasperate the situation if you're not following practical protocol. So again, we need to get the information we have toe hey, the information and applied the information. And so this is the time I'm telling you all not to give up, right? This is a season. This is a season. What can you do? Right to check off your list every day, set ago, once a day, and work hard to accomplish that goal every day you have to stay in routine and you have to figure it out. What? It is that when you come out, you're gonna be the version two point. Oh, of yourself. And so they're past the pastor Pastor, you hit known something, and it is important for people to understand that we've gone through valleys in our lives. We had high moments in our lives. But the most important thing is we never gave up and God never gave up on us. And so this is a time where if you're looking at some spiritual direction, get alone, get along. You may be saying what I can't get along I kids around, Take a break We all need a break Take a break Going to bathroom if you have to And talk to your creator Talk to God

spk_0:   33:28
making person

spk_1:   33:29
personal, personal So I gotta actually this question acts the three doctors on the last episode This question if if you can ah, have a gigantic billboard and you can write the words or display anything that you want in this billboard because millions or even billions of people will see it, what would you write on the billboard and tell us

spk_0:   33:51
why Being nice is easy? Try it. Who? Being

spk_1:   34:00
nice is easy. Try it. You have a rationale on why you will write those words

spk_0:   34:10
we've all my life. I mean, I people are not nice road. And if I everybody's just tense and I hate violence, hate crime, I hate black on black from I hate It

spk_1:   34:29
s

spk_0:   34:29
almost like we're not nice to our own people were not nice to weather lover. Oh, and someone people meet. But I love the best thing. One of the best things happened. I would school themselves. People in the south are lies. You kill back then you can't walk past somebody and not speak right. Hey, use my life. Um, being nice is easy trying, man. You'll get more at being nice. Then you will being so even married people be nice to one another. Children mean I see your parents. Parents. We might see your to just be nice.

spk_1:   35:15
Yes, sir,

spk_0:   35:16
but there's an internal thing. Sometimes it stops us from being nines. So we need to address our issues because everybody was not your predator.

spk_1:   35:29
Um oh, everybody was not sure. Predator,

spk_0:   35:35
I I'm not the one that abused. I'm not the one that used you. I'm not the one that hurts you, But I could be the one that God bless you.

spk_1:   35:47
Yes. So be careful how you treat me.

spk_0:   35:49
All right? The nice is easy.

spk_1:   35:52
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Now that that is so practical. But it yet is so powerful, like an and And here's the thing. What he's saying is a layered display on that billboard because as easy as it sounds is so hard for people to understand, you don't take a whole lot, uh, to smile. I remember Bishop Heinz. You start. Bishop Daryl Heinz used to always say it Don't take a whole lot from you to smile.

spk_0:   36:21
It does it

spk_1:   36:23
right. So we learned to be nice, especially in moments in times like this, where the stress are high. People are dealing with mental health issues, which we talked about last week with the doctors, the doctor, doctors, they got on the show and they was like, Hey, something practical. They said, We're not trying to offend anyone if you in the neighborhood where you don't feel safe going outside. But you can go take a walk like sometimes it's taking a walk and just thinking before you respond right close to emotional learning is really important, especially for youth, that before you respond because when you talk about black on black crime, I hate it. I hate it just like you with a passion. Because so many people, uh, like to go from 0 to 100 super fast and they over nothing. Yeah.

spk_0:   37:17
Oh, or nothing. Yeah, because we're not nice over nothing I sit down from maybe just like what we're talking about, even in the tires. Yeah, even in the church, people are not nice. Yeah. So is my life.

spk_1:   37:42
Yeah. So, Pastor, I'm I'm a wrap this up because, man, I know you really, really busy. Ah, but, man, this has been such a privilege in such honor toe, Have you e I know you show me and you show me. And I appreciate that, man. And when you believe in me, you believe in all the young men that I'm impacting the mentor. So that's the sea. That's the power off of what you sow. Uh, but

spk_0:   38:07
what does

spk_1:   38:08
the future of new life look like? What's going on? A church man? When are we gonna be able to walk in there?

spk_0:   38:15
Every taste? Also. Let us so glad God slow that thing.

spk_1:   38:19
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   38:21
Oh, what we're going through right now. Yeah, also Glad that. Ready?

spk_1:   38:25
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   38:27
This is a building that Turks is one of the biggest challenges that I've ever had. Oh, but it's a process. The way anything, anything, this anything I go through, I try to find it spiritually. I have to find that being a Scripture. And if I find that thing in Scripture, it gives me because there's a scripture that says, no, temptation is overtaking you. That is not comments a man, in other words, what you're going through. Somebody's already been through it. Yeah, And you just got to see how they made it through when the Lord delivered. This is in Israel, out of Egypt. The Obama says he took them the long round. Mm. Had he taken them the shorter route, they would have ran into enemies and turned around and went back to Egypt. So I'm grateful for the long route. Um, when they when this happened, my church was supposed to open on Easter.

spk_1:   39:25
Um uh, OK,

spk_0:   39:30
open way. Wouldn't have even been able to go in it.

spk_1:   39:34
Yes, sir.

spk_0:   39:36
It's been a fight. I did something that's not normal. I went nonunion. Chicago is a union city is run by thugs. Breaking you will pay the price for it because it's a political union city. So I had a fight along with that. I get the loan because nobody believed that you could build something like this in the black community. I didn't build a normal church. I built a performing arts center so our church could be rented out on days that we don't have terms to bring the arcs back to the hood back to the community so that I could offer jobs. There are people, um, so there has been a challenge, but is I'm still being built. I had a construction company that quit in the middle of a job and sue them. I wrote This has been the most trying thing that I've ever ever done in my life. But again, I just arrested the lower. I went to go preach for ambitious. I be Hillier and he sent to me at a dinner table. He says, John, every delay is gonna be your benefit. Mm. And when he said that every delay is going to be to your benefit and gave me a piece. But I had not had in a long time. And so when this happened, I was like, I thank you because had it been open up Easter, I get people I'm very well known preachers and singers who want to come. I would about all those plane tickets, I would have had all that money spent that I never would have been able to get back. And then nobody's going to build.

spk_1:   41:22
I see.

spk_0:   41:22
So I rest in the lower, but it's coming. But when it comes is gonna be amazing.

spk_1:   41:27
Oh, yeah, No doubt, man. So Ah, I just want to say thank all again of our health care first responders that are out there risking their lives doing this time. The information that we give from the medical is important, but I believe the foundation is the spiritually information. We have to get the spiritual foundation correct. If we want to build a sustainable house, why is because the storms will come? And will you be built on the sand or well built in Iraq? And so listen, listen, everybody. Ah, I want you to stay connected to somebody that you trust. They're they're counseling lines available their mentor, their coaches there that are available for you. There are pastors, their spiritual leaders, but connect with somebody. Yesterday, I had one of my young men out in Michigan that I've been mentoring. He just called me and just was like, a talk to me. And so I listened to him talk and we talk, and I can tell it did something to his spirit. But what it did, it did something to my spirit because we could never get away from the power of human connection. And when we are feeding off good examples. Good books. Ah, good meditation. Good mentor ship. We able to come to share that in best practice. So thank you so much. Past a Hannah Ah, for dropping in on the born to win podcast where everybody is born A winning every situation in life on give us some last words Pastors take us home.

spk_0:   43:02
And what you just keep doing what you're doing there. Keep pouring. Um, Learn from this guy's, um, When you're not pouring, that means that you're just standing still. If you're not pouring, that means that your water the you're not pouring, you become the debt. See who and the debt. See the water never moves in the debt. See, fish cannot survive in the debt. See, I'm nothing lives in the debt, see, because it stands steel And in this season, the enemy would love to make us think that were standing steel. But even now you're finding a way to poor even doing this. You pouring even phone calls were pouring everything. You face somebody a porn's every time you answer your phone and your blessed US America port it was Have you have somebody deported? And then when you pour, you empty out so that I could fill you back up again. So I just want to encourage people doing this season don't stand steel, keep it moving. Final way to do what she do. But you gotta keep it moving. I'm a people person. I have this thing. You hear me? Uh, I don't like this. And I wake up everything until God, I hate Colbert. 19 e. Yes. I find a way like this to keep pouring, so keep it moving.

spk_1:   44:38
Thank you so much. Keep moving. Don't stand still, Right. Keep point and God will continue to feel we love you. We thank you for tuning in. Please share this with somebody. Um and I'm sure will be uplifting until next time. Way? One way. Champs